Thing 2: Keeping Up to Date Part 2

Part 2 of Keeping up to date looks at Twitter. If you have not yet looked at Part 1 (RSS) please scroll to the previous post or use the link to previous posts on the right hand side of this blog.

Twitter

Twitter is a micro-blogging service that allows you to publish short updates of up to 140 characters about what you are doing. Users follow other users to subscribe to each others updates. All the updates from the users you follow will be aggregated in to one timeline that appears when you log in to the site.

Phil Bradley has collected together lots of information and advice on using Twitter on his website and you can download a free Twitter guide from LSE here.


Twitter has been in the news a lot over the last couple of years, what with super-injunction breaking and celebrity endorsements from the likes of Stephen Fry. Although a common belief is that Twitter is filled with people tweeting about what they had for lunch, in reality few users actually use the service to send updates about the minutiae of their everyday activities, instead preferring to use it to network and share ideas or interesting things they have seen around the web. Because of this, Twitter can be of use to librarians on many levels - for keeping up to date, personal networking, and as an institution interacting with users.

In addition to the vast number of individual users of Twitter there are many libraries and organisations now using the service to publicise their services and engage with their users and stakeholders.

Signing up for a Twitter account is an optional part of 12 Things. It may not be possible for you if Twitter is blocked within your organisation, or you may just not want to! Have a read through this section on Twitter anyway, and then Your Thing is to write a short post on your blog about why you don’t think Twitter is for you!

Joining Twitter

 However, if you do wish to join Twitter, follow these instructions:

1. Go to www.twitter.com and click the "sign up" button and follow the steps to create an account.
2. Once you have created your account you will be taken to your Twitter homepage where you can update your profile to include a short biography, a link to your blog and a profile picture. We recommend that you leave the Twitter Privacy box unchecked because this means other 12Things participants can read your tweets. You can always change this at any time.
3. Now post your first update. Click in the status box at the top of the screen where you see "compose new Tweet". Write a comment, maybe something about your participation in the 12 Things programme. You are restricted to 140 characters, and as you type you will see the number at the top right of the box decrease. Leave enough characters to add #12thingseoe at the end. This is known as a hashtag and allows Twitter users to group tweets by subject. By adding #12thingseoe to your tweet your comment will be picked up by other participants. Once you click "Update", this tweet will be added to your timeline, and anyone who follows you will be able to see your tweet.
4. Search for @12thingseoe and click "follow". Now our tweets will appear in your timeline! You will also find links to our Twitter feed on the right hand side of this Blog!

Finding People to Follow

On every users profile page you will see a "Follow" button. To subscribe to a users' updates simply click this button and their tweets will appear in your timeline.

The next step in getting started with Twitter is finding people to follow. This can be done in a number of ways:

• By searching for individuals by name using Twitter's "Find People" page (you must be logged into Twitter to do this)
• Some Twitter users create Lists of people in particular areas or professions. Phil Bradley has created lists of Librarians on Twitter at https://twitter.com/Philbradley/lists. Take a look at his two lists of UK librarians for starters, and then keep exploring!
• If you find someone interesting to follow, take a look at who they follow and go from there.
• Only follow as many or as few people as you can personally manage - current awareness is good, information overload is not!
• Remember, you do not have to personally know someone to follow them and you do not have to follow back everyone who follows you - it's your choice!

The Twitter vocabulary

Twitter brings with it a whole new language. Here are some definitions of a few of the key terms:

• Tweet - a single update of no more than 140 characters
• Retweet (RT) - a reposting of a tweet originally posted by another user
• @reply - a reply to another user
• Direct message (DM) - a private message sent to another user
• Hashtag - a method of grouping tweets by adding a standard tag, e.g. #bodleian, so that all tweets on a particular event or issue can be easily searched and tracked.

Twitter for networking

The majority of accounts on Twitter are not institutions but individuals. Tweeting as an individual you will have to decide on the level of personal vs professionalism you want to have for your "Twitter style", and there is no one right answer to this. As a networking tool, Twitter really comes into its own, as its real-time feed allows conversations to be held, thoughts on conferences to be aggregated as they are taking place using hashtags (more on this later), and questions to be asked and answered.

Once you have been tweeting for a while and have built up a few followers, Twitter can be really handy for asking questions.

Being able to view all updates using a particular hashtag has made Twitter a valuable tool for following conferences. For example, if you wished you'd had the chance to go to the Health Libraries Group conference all the tweets from conference-goers can be found at #HLG2012. 

Another use for the hashtag is for holding real-time Twitter chats on a particular topic. A great example of this is  for library staff is #UKlibChat, held the first Tuesday of the month at 6.30pm. Just follow the Twitter account and join in the chat using the hashtag. More details can be found at http://uklibchat.wordpress.com/

Chats are also held for healthcare professionals - useful to know about if you are promoting Twitter to your users.

#NurChat for Nurses - see http://www.nurchat.co.uk/ for more details
#nhssm - social media in the NHS http://nhssm.org.uk/about/
#TwitJournalClub - meets on Sunday to discuss journal articles http://www.twitjc.com


Many East of England libraries use Twitter to promote their service and highlight useful information and resources. You have probably seen their Tweets on the home page of EEL. You may like to follow some of them!

• Cambridge Medical Library @cam_med_lib
• West Suffolk Hospital Library (Fred the Skeleton) @wshlibrary
• Warner Library @WarnerLibMEHT
• Princess Alexandra Hospital Library @pahlibrary
• Papworth Hospital Library @pwlibrary
• Essex Public Health @medmans

Are there any more? Feel free to tell me in the comments if I’ve missed anyone out!

Could your library use Twitter? Take a look at 100 Ways to use Twitter in your Library

Engaging with your network

When you hover over any tweet in your timeline you will see options to either reply or retweet. Twitter only becomes really useful when you use these two features to:

• Start a conversation with someone
• When you click the reply button their username preceded by the @ symbol is automatically put at the start of your tweet. Any conversation using the @reply feature will be seen by anyone who follows both users.

• Share an interesting tweet with your followers
  When you click the retweet button the whole tweet preceded by RT will be copied in to your next tweet. If there are enough characters left you can add a comment about why you find it interesting.

You can see any replies to and retweets of your tweets by viewing your profile or clicking the @Connect Tab at the top of the screen.

Of course, the use of Twitter may not be that straightforward for you. Many NHS Trusts block or restrict access. If Twitter is available within your Trust / workplace be sure to Tweet within your organisations own social media policy. When you start using Twitter you need to think about what capacity you are Tweeting in. Will it be purely professional, personal or both? For healthcare staff tweeting there are more dangers, such as confidentiality issues.
You may like to read this blog post from the Chief Executive of Sussex Partnership Foundation Trust on her Twitter experience and advice. Social Media for NHS Dummies

Both the BMA and RCN have issued guidance for their members on using social media.

Your Thing Task 3:

• Join Twitter if you wish and post a Tweet - say Hi to your fellow 12 thing participants, or say what you hope to achieve from the course! Remember to include #12thingseoe at the end of your tweet!
• To view all #12thingseoe tweets search for #12thingseoe in the search box at the top of the page
• Write a post on your blog - is this your first experience of twitter? What do you think? Do you use it already? Remember to also blog about why you have decided NOT to investigate it too!

Thing 2, Extra Thing: Twitter, extended! 

This week's Extra Thing is really several things - third party Twitter applications and clients. These tools or add-ons complement your Twitter account and add extra functionality which can be extremely useful. Feel free to explore these if you wish but this section is optional!

Here are a few handy ones, but there are many more out there! 

Applications

• TwitterFeed- sends a tweet every time you publish a new blog post.
• Tweet Archivist - creates graphs about tweet volume over time, top users, top words used etc. Despite the name it doesn't create a full archive of your tweets.
• Twittercounter - update your Twitter status by email.
• Bit.ly- not really a Twitter application, but if you paste a URL into the box, it pops out a shortened URL such as this one - http://bit.ly/jYjYDS - which is a short URL for this blog. If you use shortened URLs in your tweets then it saves on precious characters!

Clients
Twitter clients make it easier to manage more than one Twitter account at once. (Great when you have a library and a personal account!) Most also allow you to schedule tweets, and automatically shorten URLs

• Hootsuite - Comes in browser and mobile versions. Multiple tabs make it easy to keep track of several Twitter accounts at once (and Facebook, LinkedIn, Foursquare and a few other social media sites). Can also have multiple contributers to accounts without sharing passwords - could be useful for library tweeting teams! It also has an automatic URL shortener included, and also allows you to save searches.
• Tweetdeck - desktop and mobile client (browser version for Chrome only - but with a limited beta testing version for other browsers). This client is now owned by Twitter, so if you want the official endorsed platform, give this a try!

Try out one or two of these, or google "twitter apps" and see what else you can find! 

Part 3 of this Thing is about Alerts. Move on when you are ready.

Thing 2: Keeping Up To Date Part 1

We hope you enjoyed Creating your blog and exploring other blogs. We have certainly enjoyed reading your posts.

Are you ready to move on to Thing 2? Here goes.....

Keeping up to Date - Part 1: RSS

Welcome to Thing 2. In this Thing we'll explore tools that will help you to keep up-to-date and aware of goings on in health care and the library and information world, and also make it easy to share news and stories with others. As this is quite a large thing, it will be broken down into 3 separate posts: RSS, Twitter and Alerts. You can work through them in one go, or spread them over the fortnight - whatever you prefer to do. When you reach the Twitter section, you will find setting up a Twitter account is optional. However, please still read through the section as you still have a task, even if you don't Tweet!

RSS

RSS (commonly known as Really Simple Syndication) allows you to view new content from web sites, blog entries, etc in one place, without having to visit the individual sites. This obviously makes following news, developments and updates a lot easier, as all the news comes to you!

Have a look at this video from Commoncraft:

The first step you need to take when subscribing to RSS feeds is to sign up for a feed reader. There are many available but we will use Google Reader as you have already created an account with Google.

• Go to Google Reader at www.google.com/reader or click "More" from the top of a Google page and choose Reader from the drop down list.

• Sign in with your Google account username and password

Once logged in you will see the homepage of your account. Down the left-hand side is a navigation panel and on the right is the main section of the page where you will see the content of your feeds. Automatically displayed are some posts from Google to help you get started. You can read through these now or come back to them later.


Your Thing Task 1: To show you how to receive updates from a site we will start by subscribing to the feed for this Blog.

• In the blog's sidebar on the right you will see the heading "Subscribe to" and underneath it are the options to subscribe to the posts and the comments. For now, just subscribe to the posts.
• To do this, click the link to the posts and a drop down menu will appear listing a number of feed readers.
• From the list choose "Add to Google"
• A new window will open giving you the option to either add the feed to your Google homepage or Google Reader. Click the "Add to Google Reader" option.
• You will now be taken to your Google Reader account. In the navigation panel on the left you will see 12 Things under the Subscriptions heading. If you click 12 Things you will see the lastest update from the Blog. Updates appear newest first and as you move through a list of posts they become "read". Unread posts are bold, and you simply click the title of a post to access the original blog on which it was published.
• Congratulations - you have now added an RSS Feed to your reader!

 

Subscribing to Other RSS Feeds

As you browse the internet, look out for the orange RSS logo and add interesting feeds to your Reader. However, be aware that not all website/blogs have buttons like the one on the 12 Things blog that allow you to easily subscribe to feeds using Google Reader. In some cases you will have to copy and paste the feed's URL into your reader following the steps below: 
  

• Once you have located a website's RSS feed (probably by clicking the RSS logo on the website) copy the page's web address.

• Open another tab or window, and sign into your Google Reader account.
• Click the red "Subscribe" button at the top of the left hand navigation panel. Paste the address you copied into the box.
• Click "Add" to add the website's feed to your subscriptions.

 

Now, try adding some more RSS feeds to your reader. You may want to look at some of the following blogs and websites to get you started, or search for sites on your own personal interests.

• Phil Bradleys Blog
• BMJ Blogs
• BMJ Research
• Trip database
• BBC News:
• The Wikiman (Ned Potter)

Managing your Reader

As you add more feeds to your Google Reader it's useful to know how to manage them. 

Starred Items: Each post has a panel underneath with a star symbol at the very left hand side. Click this star to turn it yellow and add the post to your Favourites. To view all your favourited items click on "Starred items" at the top of the left hand navigation panel.

Sharing: You can share a post with your circle on Google+ (if you are a member of this) or email the link to others. 

Tags: To Tag a post with a subject of your choice, click the "Edit Tags" and add tags as you wish. These tags will appear in the navigation panel on the left. 

Folders: You can save feeds into Folders (e.g.health librarians, journals, education, etc - whatever you choose!). To do this, click the down arrow to the right of Subscriptions in the left hand navigation panel (you may have to hover your mouse over subscriptions to see this arrow!). Click the arrow and then choose: "Manage Subscriptions". You will see a list of your Subscriptions. Click Add to a Folder and then choose "new Folder". Give the folder a name. This name will now appear next to the subscription. Back on the Google Reader home page you will find your feeds arranged into the folders you have created. 

Unsubscribe / Rename: To unsubscribe from a feed, click the arrow to the right of the feed's name and choose "unsubscribe" from the menu. You can also Rename a feed from this menu too.


You may also like to think about how you could use RSS in a library setting. Have a look at 10 Ways Librarians can use RSS as a starting point.


There are other ways of keeping track of RSS feeds, rather than just Google Reader:

• Web Browsers: some web browsers, including IE7 and above, and Firefox have built in RSS readers and these work in a similar way to saving web pages in your favourites or bookmarks. However, the disadvantage is that you will only be able to see them from the computer on which you saved them.
• Email: some email programmes, such as Outlook, have built in RSS readers.
• Personalised Start Pages: you can set up your own personalised home page where you can keep track of RSS feeds, plus monitor email and add gadgets of your choice. Examples include iGoogle, and Netvibes and we'll be taking a look at these in Thing 5.

Your Thing Task 2:

So, for this thing you should have added the 12 Things RSS feed to your reader, and also may have added a few others, either from the suggestions or from your own browsing.

Now write a short blog entry on your experiences. What are your impressions of RSS? Do you think you will find it useful in your work or personal life?  How could you use it within your library?

When ready, move on to Part 2 of Keeping up to Date: Twitter.

Fiona's 12 Things - please re-register!

Hello and thank you for starting to register your blogs.

We are having some difficulty registering Fiona's 12 Things as the URL is not recognised.

Please could you complete the registration form again. The URL will look like this [name].blogspot.co.uk

Have a look at sanghagirl and Web Spider to see what we mean.

Thanks!

Thing 1: Blogs

Thing 1 Blogs

Welcome to 12 Things and Thing 1. Each fortnight, we will tell you about our Thing, and then we will ask you to do certain tasks in relation to it - your Thing. By the end of the course we will have told you about 6 Things and you will have explored 6 Things - hence 12 things before Christmas!

During the course of 12 Things you will be expected to blog your experiences, thoughts or reflections on each Thing and on the course generally. Your comments will be seen by us and your fellow participants.And, in fact, by anyone on the web!

To do that, it will be necessary for you to set up and register a blog with us, but more about that later....

Your blog is an essential component of this course. It lets us and others know that you are exploring each Thing. The purpose of the course is to introduce you to web 2.0 tools you may not have used before, but also to encourage you to share your experiences with others on the course and on the web.

It is entirely up to you what kind of style you adopt for your blog posts. You can be chatty and conversational, irreverent, humorous, serious, formal or informal. You can stick to the Things or blog about other things. It’s your choice, but we do ask you to share your experiences of the things. In fact, this will be one of your tasks (your Things) for each Thing. Your blog can also be anonymous - there’s no need to say who you are if you would rather not! It’s entirely up to you.

To kick off Thing 1 lets look at what blogs are, how they might be useful to you, and how to create one.

What are blogs?

Google's Blogger hosted by Blogspot, defines a blog:

"A blog is a personal diary. A daily pulpit. A collaborative space. A political soapbox. A breaking-news outlet. A collection of links. Your own private thoughts. Memos to the world. Your blog is whatever you want it to be. There are millions of them, in all shapes and sizes, and there are no real rules.  In simple terms, a blog is a website, where you write stuff on an ongoing basis. New stuff shows up at the top, so your visitors can read what's new. Then they comment on it or link to it or email you. Or not. "


A blog (or web-log) is essentially a webpage that displays entries in a chronological order, a bit like an online diary. They are easy to set up and there are lots of free providers. Blogs are usually interactive and allow readers to comment on the posts being made. They also feature RSS so that readers can set up feeds to alert them to new posts or comments on the blog (more about RSS in Thing 2) Feeds can also be used to publish the blog content on other websites without having to update them separately. If you want to know more about blogs in general, check out the Wikipedia article on blogs.

Why blog?

People blog to share and disseminate information. On a personal level individuals may blog to share news with family and friends. On a professional level, reasons that researchers, students and clinicians blog may include:

• to disseminate their work and gain global impact quickly without the constraints of traditional scholarly communications
• to publicise their publications or events they are involved in
• to share ideas, comments, news or information and to build up professional networks
• to exchange information or progress with a particular group of people, such as a research or project group
• to reflect on their work or events attended to aid their professional development
• to keep up to date by monitoring blogs created by other people or organisations

Organisations may use blogs to disseminate news or information about their services or products. Conferences or events may have accompanying blogs to give updates or publish abstracts or presentations.

Can you think of any other reasons why researchers, academics, students or clinicians might use blogs? Why not post a comment on this blog, below?

Your Thing: 
Task 1: Create your own blog and register it with us.  

Throughout the 12 Things programme we'll all be communicating and sharing our experiences through blog entries. You'll need to write on your own blog about each 'Thing' you complete. Your blog will become your personal journal to track your progress, recording your thoughts, discoveries and exercises.  For those new to blogging, you will soon see the potential for sharing information within your team, with users and even your family.  I encourage you to track not only what you learn, but also how you apply each tool in your life. You can choose to use a screen name if you prefer to keep yourself anonymous. If you are not sure how much to write, don’t be shy – write as much as you like!

Blogs are usually set up using a blogging platform, but then you can customise and personalise your blog to make it look like your own websites. This blog is made available using Blogger, which is fairly simple to use so we shall give instructions for setting up your own blog on Blogger. Feel free to use another platform if you prefer, such as WordPress, or Tumblr.  Alternatively if you already have a personal blog and prefer to use that for 12 Things then please do. Once you have created your blog please click the Tab at the top of the blog to complete the registration form with the website address for your blog so we can create a link to it from the 12 Things blog.

Your Thing:
Task 1: Create your own blog and register it with us.  

How to set up a blog with Blogger
Go to Blogger and log in with your Google account. (If you don't have a Google account you will need to set one up - click on the 'Don't have a Google Account? Get Started' link). 

1.  First choose a profile - either Google+ or Blogger - you can choose Blogger if not using Google+.
2. Choose a Display Name and click "Continue to Blogger"
3. Now Click "New Blog" in the top left.
4. Choose a name and URL (website address), plus a template (how you want it to look) for your blog and click on Continue. NB. Try to think of one that is easy to spell, remember and say (for when you're telling people your blog address!) Remember that the whole web world can see your blog title and blog address. You probably don’t want to use your real name. Consider creating a blog name that’s anonymous, yet uniquely you. The URL for your blog will look like this example - http://librarywriting.blogspot.com/ (this is a real blog so of course you need to give your own blog its own unique name). The format is name.blogspot.com when you use blogger.com software.
5. Click "Create Blog".
6. Please remember your URL address and/or bookmark it. 
7. You should now have a page confirming that your blog has been created. You can now start blogging by clicking the orange pencil. This takes you through to creating your first post but don't worry about that for now, we'll show you how to create a post later.  At any time you can view your blog by clicking on View Blog. You can also go to the settings, where you can customise your blog by clicking the down-arrow. 
8.  Now please complete the registration form at http://12thingseoe.blogspot.co.uk/p/register-your-blog.html  (or click on the Tab at the top of this page) with the URL of your blog so we can link to it from this blog.

Tips: Altering the design of your blog

Feel free to play about with the design of your blog and customise it if you have time. You might want to look at some other blogs to get ideas about the layout and design and what to include.

• Templates: You can change the template you have chosen by going to "Template" in the Settings menu. Blogger is quite limited in the templates it provides but you can download alternative templates for free, eg. from BTemplates.com (these are downloaded as zip files from which you'll need to extract the .xml file). In the Template menu in Blogger, click on Edit HTML. Browse for your template saved on your computer and select Upload.
• Gadgets: From the Layout menu you can choose to add or remove the various gadgets, or elements, that are displayed on your blog page. Click on Add a Gadget to browse and select new gadgets. For example, you can link to Twitter, add a list of Blogs you follow, or give your readers the option to subscribe to your blog by email or RSS. You can always Edit or Remove these later. You can also move them around on your screen by dragging and dropping them.

Congratulations - you have created your Blog. Now let’s start blogging!

How to create your first blog post

If you are using Blogger you can follow these instructions to create your first blog post:

• Click on the Orange pencil or the New Post button if you're on a different screen. 
• Enter a title for your post and start typing! You can format the text using the toolbar at the top of the box.

Your Thing:
Task 2: Write Something!

To start off your blogging write a post about why you're taking part in the course. You could talk what you're hoping to learn from 12 Things, which of the Things you're most (or least) looking forward to, how you feel about being a new blogger or how you'd like to improve your blogging, or anything else that relates to why you're doing this!

• You can add tags to your blog post by entering words separated by commas in the Labels to the right of your screen (under "Post Settings"). These can help people find entries in your blog later, just like we might add subject headings to a catalogue record when cataloguing a book. We suggest you add the tag Thing 1 and 12thingseoe, and any other tags of your choice.
• Be sure that you have enabled comments. We want to comment on your posts, as do others. Under Post Settings on the right of your screen, click "Options" and select "Allow" under Readers Comments. Click done.
•  Click on Preview to see your post before you publish it. When ready you can click on Publish Post.
• Tip: Insert images or videos using the links on the toolbar to make your blog more interesting visually, but make sure you abide by copyright restrictions!

If you'd like to read more on blogs and blogging, take a look at Ned Potter's 'Everything you've ever wanted to know about library blogs and blogging!' and follow the links he suggests.

Your Thing:
Task 3: Leave some comments on other Blogs!

Now go and visit some blogs of other 12 Things participants - take a look at the “My Blog List” on this blog -  read some posts and leave some comments to let the authors know what you thought. Don’t be shy! What did you enjoy about their post? Do you have similar or contrasting experience to share?  Or just say hello to let them know someone is reading!

Being able to comment and discuss ideas is what makes blogging - and social media in general - so useful and valuable as a tool for personal and professional development. Comments on your own blog can offer advice and support, they might point you towards useful resources, or they might challenge your opinions and help you refine your arguments. By commenting on other people's blog you're likely to think more deeply about what you've read and what you think about an issue, you'll also be able to share some of your expertise, and you'll get your face (or, at least your moniker) more widely known.  It can be daunting to comment on the blog of someone you may never have met, but do take the plunge, even if it's just to say hello, or to say that you enjoyed a post.

To finish off,  once you've explored a few of the other 12 Things blogs, write a  short post on your blog about what you've read and who you've met.

How to search for blogs

So where do you start if you want to find other people's blogs? You might want to try one of the following blog search tools: Google blog search, Technorati blog directory, IceRocket. The Webicina website is a useful tool for finding blogs (and other social media) arranged by medical disciplines. It even has a section on Medical Librarianship.




OPTIONAL EXTRAS

Every week we'll have some optional extras which will take you beyond the basics of the topic being covered, which you can investigate if you are interested and have the time. There are 4 optional extras here - you don’t have to do them all or you don't have to do any of them - it's up to you!

1. Find an example of a blog and share it on your blog
We've already discussed some of the reasons why researchers, students or clinicians might want to use blogs. Now find an example (or more than one if you're feeling keen!) of a blog that might be of interest to people in medicine and healthcare, or another subject area if you prefer. You might be able to identify a blog that is written by these types of people, or a blog written by an organisation or connected to an event that might be of interest to this user group. Where possible it might be most useful if you were able to find UK examples. Blog about the example(s) you have identified. How much you write about it is totally up to you.


2. Add features from Blogger's selections on Layout and Settings pages. Add a blog roll of blogs of your fellow participants or of other interesting blogs you've found. Add photos or video. Add email subscriptions or link to your Twitter account if you have one.

3. Already have a Blogger blog? Explore other blogging software and compare and contrast features. Which ones have great features? Which one would you recommend?

4. Be sure to blog about your experience with the other blogging software and/or third party features. Any features you think all blogs should have?

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Don’t forget to blog about your experiences of thing 1. If you can’t think of how to get started, these questions may be helpful, but don’t feel you have to answer all of them. Just tell us about your experiences with blogging:

How was it for you? What did you find easy or difficult? How would you use blogging in a library service? Can you think of ways in which blogging may be useful for some of your library users? Do you think you will continue to blog, either at work or on a personal level?

Congratulations on completing Thing 1. We hope you enjoyed it.  Thing 2 is all about keeping up to date, and will be posted on 1st October.